@sesivany I do wish it was Fedora Mate, as Gnome isn't the most accessible to the few blind Linux users who can bash their heads against Linux to reshape their minds into something that'll accept Linux's huge accessibility issues, but ah well. First steps I suppose.
@devinprater We know GNOME a11y is not good. Back in the GNOME 2 times Sun had several devs working just on it. Oracle fired them after the acquisition and there has been no one consistently working on it since then.
Recently we hired a blind developer to work on a11y, so things will hopefully improve.
@sesivany I definitely hope so. I love the concept of Gnome 3, the online accounts stuff, all that, but accessibility is my big thing. I mean, I just can't compromise on it.
@qrsbrwn @sesivany This is true. And I *love* that Fedora often has up-to-date packages. Well, maybe not as up-to-date as Arch, but I definitely appreciate that Fedora doesn't treat just-released software like a beta or something. I mean, Pandoc is a great example. There's a new release every few months. Ubuntu? 2004 even? like 2.5 or so, can't check right now but definitely not near up to date.
@dajbelshaw They started with US, Canada, but other countries should be included soon. The goal is to have world-wide availability.
@sesivany That's awesome. I remember Dell had an Ubuntu program at one point, but as you say, it's always a battle!
@dajbelshaw They still do. But the number of countries is limited (UK is on the list). Lenovo is going further and they really want to offer Fedora laptops in every country where they sell.
@sesivany I almost wish they would have used Silverblue because it drastically reduces the risk of updates.
But generally speaking even with updates on Fedora are rarely a problem. I'm running my system with daily automated updates enabled for years now I never run into any noteworthy issues.
I wonder if they will ship F33 eith btrfs. It's definitely something to watch out for now.
@sheogorath We have a positive feedback about Silverblue from hardware vendors and at some point Silverblue was considered, but Silverblue ecosystem and infrastructure is not yet ready for this.
But in the future? Definitely. Silveblue brings tangible advantanges for hardware vendors.
@charlag The ThinkPad business has not been part of IBM for the last 16 years. 😀
IBM didn't really participate in this.
@sesivany yeah but :
- it's only on select model, that's not what we ask,
- it's preinstalled, we never asked for it, all we want is to not have to pay for win when we don't want it. On any model.
- does it come with specs & schematics for driver writing & repair?
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