Both were poor, hungry, and driven. Neither were dumb. Both were at best ethically unmoored, if not evil.
There are many others in the field of economics who are similar. And of course, other fields -- this happens to be one I'm particularly close to. Law, politics, sales, marketing, engineering, computer science, even sociology and psychology if you look to areas such as criminology, propaganda, advertising, and manipulation.
And of course, there are good people in these fields.
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