Inverting the Web 

@freakazoid What methods *other* than URL are you suggesting? Because it is imply a Universal Resource Locator (or Identifier, as URI).

Not all online content is social / personal. I'm not understanding your suggestion well enough to criticise it, but it seems to have some ... capacious holes.

My read is that search engines are a necessity born of no intrinsic indexing-and-forwarding capability which would render them unnecessary. THAT still has further issues (mostly around trust)...

@freakazoid ... and reputation.

But a mechanism in which:

1. Websites could self-index.
2. Indexes could be shared, aggregated, and forwarded.
4. Search could be distributed.
5. Auditing against false/misleading indexing was supported.
6. Original authorship / first-publication was known

... might disrupt things a tad.

Somewhat more:
news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2

NB: the reputation bits might build off social / netgraph models.

But yes, I've been thinking on this.

@dredmorbius This is not a fully fleshed out idea yet, but the "L" was the important bit. People generally don't care about the location of the content. They care about the content of the content, and other stuff about the content like the author, etc.

Just think about how people generally navigate the web these days. They don't type a URL into their addressbar or click a bookmark. They type a search query into their address bar, which will generally bring up Google results.

@freakazoid Sorry, what "L"?

I'm not seeing reference to this and am confused.

@dredmorbius Sorry, I mean the "L" in "URL". It's a uniform resource *locator*.

Google is trying to build the thing I'm talking about, only it will be designed to give them even more power than they already have by hiding URLs entirely, making it so that there's no chance at all to navigate the web successfully without them.

@freakazoid OK, yes.

And, old hat to you, but the idea was to "locate on the Internet, by server and path": espace.cern.ch/webservices-hel

... in a system literally designed by nuclear particle physicists.

Alternatively, L = I, "identifier".

Location == Identity.

Part of that remains valid. Part of it ... may not.

I've been kicking around the idea of a (local) document-oriented "filesystem" in which specifiers are effectively metadata descriptors or content-based keys. old.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/c

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@freakazoid Some more exploration of that (and more specific to the docs-oriented FS) here, in comments:

joindiaspora.com/posts/1702010

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