Today if you buy an iPhone, the iPad Pro and Mac either you’ll need a dongle or different wired headphones for each … or AirPods

It’s clear removing the headphone port is an intentional move to sell AirPods by making the alternative far more complicated

This is user-hostile!

@camh When I flip it around though, I think it's safe to say that most people hate wires. Or at least, tolerate them. In other words: maybe it's a worthwhile problem to work towards eliminating, like floppy/hard/CD disk drives.

@chartier that would be a decent argument if the iPhone … didn’t literally come with wired headphones that are incompatible with iPad and Mac

Apple isn’t, like, altruistically helping people get rid of wires, they are making a conscious design choice that makes AirPods the best experience … and that choice sells a lot of AirPods.

This design choice 100% benefits Apple and removing the headphone port benefits users … none

@camh Removing the headphone jack can save weight, which is important to many users including my wife’s parents. I think it also helps with water resistance. It also makes room for larger batteries, and I think it’s safe to say that’s important to a *lot* of people.

Those things might not be important to you. But I don’t think I can agree that these are wasted enhancements.

@chartier
1. I’d like to point out that Samsung made waterproof phones with headphone jacks
2. I think if Apple actually cared about weight that much, there’d be a new iPhone SE
3. Apple sure managed to engineer great battery life even with the headphone jack

If those things you said are true, they would have been true before the iPhone 7. Why not remove the headphone jack in the iPhone 6 or even the 5S?

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